They pop up in some credible places. A few years ago I had a heated argument with a manager at Urban Outfitter's in London - he insisted that the dodgy jeans in their second hand rack were legit; only later, once I called a Levi's counterfeit specialist, did they recant. They'd bought the items from a trusted jobber - so it seems that some fake Levi's have entered the supply chain from America. In recent times I've seen convincing fakes which are impossible to ID without detailed knowledge of Levi's fabrics and arcane details. But I'll deal with those at some other time.
For now, here are five warning signs for the most obvious, and most common fake Levi's. All these photos are taken from real eBay or online sales - in several cases, I emailed the seller, who continued with the sale, probably because they were fully aware they were selling counterfeit goods. I'm using their photos for the purpose of criticism and review, and to stop others being ripped off.
Warning 1: extra selvage.
Fakers know that selvage is synonymous with vintage jeans. So often they can't resist the temptation to add extra selvage, just to make it even more authentic than the real thing.
Take this item from a recent sale. Real 1950s Levi's are known for having offset or slanted belt loops - so often fakers improve on this by adding selvage, something you'd never see on an original's belt loop.
On real vintage, or LVC jeans, you often see a selvage line inside the watch pocket. Again, fakers often improve on the real thing, by adding selvage outside the watch pocket.
Warning 2: It's a cinch.
Fakers know that old jeans have a cinch back. So they add random cinch backs onto their jeans to make them look more authentic. Often they're in the wrong place - as on this pair, where they are set below the waistband, as opposed to overlapping it. (NB, there are a couple of horrible Levi's Japan reissues that look like this. I'm guessing the Thai fakes are probably based on them.).
This pair, shown below, are a pretty common type that abound in period detail - too much of it. Exposed rivets on the pockets are a common on vintage jeans. And red tags are synonymous with Levi's. So here our fakers have added both of them to their fantasy jeans - despite the fact you'd never see both a red tag and exposed rivets on a vintage, or reissue, pair.
Note also that this pair have the "diamond" shape you'll find at the bottom of the arcuate, on post-1947 jeans, but which are never seen on earlier, cinch back pairs. Any LVC fans will also tell you that the denim looks completely wrong, and that the stitching is all the wrong colour for supposedly prewar jeans.

Just for the heck of it, here are the jeans the fakers are trying to copy: a pair of genuine LVC 1920s 201. Note they have very different arcuate shape with no diamond, a cinch that overlaps with the waistband, and no red tab. There are many other differences, including the fabric, and constructional details.
Warning 3: Label-conscious
Fakes rarely get the two-horse patch right. Once again, fakers feel compelled to "improve" on the original. Levi's leather patches are always pale in colour when new. They do age to a darker colour, or even dry out to give an effect known as "beef jerky". But LVC and vintage 2-Horse patches never ever look like this fake pair. (NB, there are some mass market Levi's made in Canada that have similar patches, avoid those, too!)

You will often see fakes of the linen patch, used on Levi's early budget line, the 201 jeans. Some of these have hilarious mis-spellings, like "Gauranteed", on the patch. The patches rarely look right, but usually there are other warning signs.
This pair (below) has the cinch in the correct position - but again, a superfluous red tag, and the diamond shape at the bottom of the arcuate which you'd never find on cinch back jeans. Once you get familiar with LVC, you'll see the cut of these is quite simply wrong. They've taken a modern or 50s shape and simply added a cinch - the original is a completely different shape. Everything about them is wrong, including the pocket shape, pocket placement and the shape of the yoke. I believe this pair have the correct chain stitched hems, though, which many fakes miss.

You'll see the same patch on fake 200-series jackets, too. Note the big space before the 't' on Garment, this is common on both fake pants and jackets. This particular jacket has the same dark fabric seen on many fakes, which bears little resemblance either to LVC or vintage Levi's.
This pair is much more convincing, with a good attempt at the stitching and shape of a LVC 1947 model. The leather patch and red tag are the most obvious warning signs - these jeans boast pretty good fabric compared to many Thai fakes, but on this model the selvage line is blue where it should be red.
They should look like this. You can see that the Thai jeans get many details right, but the shape of the pockets and arcuate are, as always, a reliable indicator, beyond specific details like the patch and tag.
Fake vintage Levi's, for some reason, tend to be based on the very first LVC and Capital E reissues. These all had batwing logos on the Laundry tags, and often had the characteristic print on the pocket bags, that are seen on very early, rare Levi's.
The delicious aspect of fakes is that they copy the batwing, and usually the detailed ad copy, but add many typos and errors. Some early Levi's have faintly racist messages, about being made by "all-white" labour - but they never have spelling mistakes.
I've just had my laptop stolen so I've lost the very best examples of fake mis-spellings on the pocket bags. But this care tag, telling you to "tumele dry" your jeans, is a pretty good example. You can just see the pocket bags under this care tag - I am pretty sure that it will feature even more hilarious spelling
mistakes!

5: Clues in the Hue
Like so many fake items, it's not the details that look wrong - it's the overall look. And with the mostly Thai (or Indonesian) counterfeits, it's the denim itself that just doesn't look right. Often the fakes are more streaky in appearance; more fundamentally, the colour looks just wrong. It's hard to spot at first - but once you get familiar with fakes, it's the most obvious sign.
No original Levi's, or LVC repros, have fabric like this. Study and fondle the originals, and you'll never be caught out.
Good luck, and if you see "vintage" Levi's on eBay or elsewhere that you find suspicious, email me or post a comment here.






Hello Paul, great article you have there. Sorry to hear about the stolen laptop. I think a lot of times people are hesitant about getting into LVC because they have no clue about what they're buying and the signs to look out for fakes, including myself. Thanks for sharing this. Definitely a lot of useful information in helping to spot the fakes.
ReplyDeleteright you are, pretty sure i'm going to remember most of this for when i next see a pair. very handy, i had no idea and to slip into UO is very poor. great article
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ReplyDelete"Study and fondle the originals, and you'll never be caught out."
ReplyDeleteThis is also how I detect breast implants
I think you should further outline the fact that barcodes didn't come into use until 1974 and weren't in wide usage until quite a bit after that and that the larger care tag was not used before 1993.
ReplyDeleteIt appears that Rokit, a pretty respected vintage store, are selling fake 201s. (Again, these should have exposed rivets and no red tag... there is a mass market version of the 201, which is again different).
ReplyDeletehttp://www.rokit.co.uk/product.php?product_id=MC351354
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEVIS-501-MENS-JEANS-28-X-32-EXCELLENT-CONDITION-/251156833956?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DMRU-11450%252BUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D251156831124%26ps%3D54 do you think these are real? I am struggling to tell
ReplyDeleteI have a Levi's jean jacket with a big E, a friend donated it to me to sell for extra cash, as I am out of job right now. I have been looking for information on it to make sure it is authentic, not that I don't trust my friend but, that I know it can be easy to be mistaken. Do you have any tips on how to authenticate a Levi Jean Jacket? Plus it has patches sewn onto it, and I have been unsuccessful in finding any with HONDA patches, is this normal?
ReplyDeleteThere are rather fewer fake jackets around, and there are a good number of original Big E jackets still in circulation, so it's much less likely to be a fake than suspicious Big E jeans. If you email me photos I ill check for you, though - there's an email link for me on the Welcome page at www.trynka.com
ReplyDeleteWonderful; thank you very much. I would love any help and I will email some pictures in a couple of days. Thank you again. :)
ReplyDeleteHi I have some 501's which have a lable printed on the back of the pocket lining inside of the jeans while other pairs I have do not have a label. Is this a pointer to fakes ?
ReplyDeleteHi Anonymous, some LVC jeans have either an LVC logo (recent issue); some earlier LVC ones have a para or so of wording, so the presence or absence doesn't necessarily denote a fake. But if they have the longer working, check for spelling errors - like those on the laundry tag, they always denote a counterfeit item.
ReplyDeleteHello, Paul. I hope you still get to read and reply to this post. :) Anyway, there is a Levi's Online Seller here in the Philippines and she's supposedly selling original Levi's jeans. Can you check her items out and see if her items are legit or fake or whatnot. Her online store for Facebook is http://www.facebook.com/HannahOnlineStore. Thanks >:)
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